SOUNDS & VISION - interview with Andrew Loog Oldham on his upcoming new podchat

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Sounds & Vision' is the new podchat coming soon online hosted by the original Rolling Stones manager/impresario/producer Andrew Loog Oldham, hoping for more of the same as his past shows such as 'From The Road' or the popular SiriusXM programme he shared with E-Street guitarist Steven Van Zandt - 'Sounds & Vision' will be the man himself sitting down and chopping it up with an exciting line up of names from both the past & present. From the music industry to art, fashion and of course the on-line world - its shaping up as one not to miss.
Being the same age, if not younger than some of the Stones when he first found them running through their early fired-up set of rhythm and blues at the Railway Inn/Richmond 1963. This self-made musically/fashion minded, take no prisoners, press savvy young buck went on to change the rules and set a new scene for what was to be expected of a manager of a cool new 'hip' band. Going on to launch Marianne Faithfull, manage The Small Faces and start his own record label (Immediate Records) British music had never experienced anything like him before, the first of a kind - and that was just his output of the 60's. Later generations would have picked up on ALO via his Rolling Stones symphony version of 'The Last Time' which turned The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony into the legendary tune it became, or more so by soaking up his massively acclaimed bio's 'Stoned' & '2Stoned'.



..And so returning with his new podchat ZANI dropped in on Andrew, together with show producer Craig Snyder to find out whats in store as well as his thoughts on the music biz today, his latest book in the making 'Aftermath'.. and whats rocking his world right now.

Hi Andrew and welcome back online with your new podcast. Sound & Vision - Coming from the world of music, media and fashion I imagine you'll be having a wide selection of people on the show - like one guest who I know has been on the show Mick Rock..the legendary British photographer (Queen, David Bowie,Syd Barrett, Lou Reed, Sex Pistols etc..)

Andrew:
SOUNDS and vision, Carl, sounds in the plural. Yeah, Mick Rock...I made a beeline for Mick when Esther and I moved to New York in 1977. It was the years of cocaine and poseurs and Mick was very good at both. The New York box of jewels and the place to be seen was Studio 54. However, Mick, like all great outsiders, thinks outside of the box. He operated on the perimeter of what was not so hot on the day, but what would be tomorrow. Mick had a relationship with the acts that he photographed that was not unlike a manager or a producer and was very protective of that relationship. In so many ways Mick was like an old time movie studio boss. His camera loved and gave us so many images of artists whose music is still with us today. My podcat with Mick is just that, a chat. I'm not interviewing him. We're just letting you all in on a chat amongst friends. Shop Talk. Two girls behind the counter having a natter.

Interesting line up indeed.. especially with people like advertising guru Rob Schartz, who was once described as a "CEO's Creative Director. The very much changing world of on-line branding and PR and its effects on music, fashion and media itself.. things which you forwarded and achieved putting out the early Rolling Stones

Andrew: 
I met Rob through my son Maximillian. You should never leave school, every day you must be open to lessons. And Rob has a gig to die for in a field that informed and gave me life. Except that my life was informed by the 40's and 50's, and Rob's more so by the 60's and the miracle that America was once it had dealt with the assassination of the Kennedy’s, Martin Luther King and Vietnam. What America became once it had recovered from the Beatles. Rob is a real "Mad Men" and so in touch with how music and image shapes our life. I think you'll really enjoy our chat - it takes you there, right to the gig at hand, all our gigs.



Andrew & Mick Rock (image Craig Synder)

And of course, some of your guests will be those you've known or worked alongside yourself during your own career. Something which probably makes the show and for some entertaining conversations - as its yourself not just asking the questions but actually remembering the same industry/events and times as your guests.. Is that something you enjoy, looking back with former colleagues, friends and those whose work you've admired?

Andrew: It's a lot of busy folks taking an hour or so to stop and chat about the things we know, and about the things we have the privilege to remain engaged in thanks to the fact that our work has been accepted out in the world. We are blessed fuckers, and we know it, so letting you in to actually how both extraordinary and ordinary are our actual lives are is part of the gig. I mean, I learnt...

The title 'Sounds & Vision' says it all really.. but teaming up again with producer Craig Snyder who produced your show back on Sirius XM, what was it that brought you two together and your ideas for 'Sound & Vision'?

Andrew: I think we were always on the look out for something else to do together since we both worked for Steven Van Zandt on his Underground Garage on SiriusXM. Craig was an intern when I met him. He was being schooled with the same fellow Steven sent me to to run me through the DJ thing. Then Craig became a producer and eventually my producer before spreading his wings into other things.

Craig: I've been trying to convince Andrew to do a podcast for a few years now. The medium is ripe for what Andrew did best on his SiriusXM show. Storytelling. During our time at Underground Garage we featured a number of interviews (or chats as we called them) with folks such as Seymour Stein, May Pang, the Kills, Lou Adler, Bill Wyman, among many others. Andrew turned the airwaves into his own private salon where guests felt comfortable to share. There were many stories being told for the first time on the airwaves. After hearing podcasters like Marc Maron, Russell Brand and Cal Fussman I knew the world needed a trip back into Andrew’s salon.

You, of course, come from the era of radio and its importance and influence were massive on the wartime baby generation...the Beatles/Stones and probably every artist/musician from that time. But with so many podcasts out there online right now what is it which you both feel actually makes for an interesting/different and also popular podcast today?

Andrew: I don't pay attention to how many podcasts there are. I drove across America in June and July. Boston to Seattle via Fargo, Billings, Detroit, Chicago and Cleveland. When I finished people asked me what podcasts I'd listened to. None. I'm nearly 75, I listen to my wheels and those around me. I love driving in the rain, not singing. What I mean is I keep my ears to the road- it's safer. But I just think podcasts, or in my case podchats, are supersuited to what is going on in the service media world of today. In some ways what we are doing is part of the experience people want to know about , learn from as well as be entertained by. I want the same thing for myself. That's why I'm doing it, and, of course because I can.

Craig: It’s still early in podcasting in terms of having a personality like Andrew join the space. There are a load of conversations that tell the same stories from the past or are there to promote a current project. Our focus with Sounds and Vision is to make each episode a sonic Masterclass. We’ve already recorded a handful of episodes featuring guests who have filmed, photographed, persuaded, written, and soundtracked our rock n’ roll lives. There’s a lot that listeners can learn from each convo. I know I have.

Andrew talking to Rob Schwartz on 'Sounds & Vision' (image Craig Snyder)

As well as the radio and internet, Andrew, there's your writing too. Stoned & 2Stoned were both critically acclaimed releases featuring some quite wonderful, and at times brutally honest thoughts, memories and points of view. Together with your other releases like 'Stone Free' and 'Rolling Stoned' which looked back at the whole movement behind the Stones and your other moves within the music world like 'Immediate Records' these are books which were very well received ... can you see yourself ever writing more?

Andrew: I'm just finishing my latest, AFTERMATH. Same onion, same players, different peel. 20 years on from my first books. 50 years on from the events and the players. Remember that it's only 56 years since a drummer from Liverpool named Ringo thought he might do well enough in this game to set his wife up with a hairdressing salon.

How about when it is you being interviewed for tv, radio or online...what are the things you find you're most asked, and why do you think that is?

Andrew: It's a very weird world out there. The news is now a show. About ten years ago I was out there promoting the movie I made with the Stones in 65, "Charlie is my Darling." Before that I'd seen Keith out on the interview treadmill promoting his book, “Life." Keith always seemed to answer the same 10 questions, like a mouse on a treadmill. Then when I got in the box I realized how daft the promo game had become. You think you're there to promote whatever goods you are flogging, but you're really there as a foil or a compliment to the host, to make him or her look good. The answers that are required are built into the questions you are asked. It’s very hard to be inventive under those circumstances. So my apologies to Keith.


Back in the Day - Andrew goes through it in a recording session with a young Keith Richards.

What about a young Andrew Oldham today and the internet...TV/Cinema and the radio had such an influence on you at a pretty young age, something which you ran with all the way throughout your career... but how would you of seen yourself being brought up in this era we're in right now, would you of found a budding 'Rolling Stones' on line maybe?

Andrew: In a different field perhaps. The record and song publishing business is really just in the business of protecting rights and the income stemming from those rights. It dawned on me as I drove across America why we all got so well paid in the 60's; because the record companies stopped paying the acts from the 50's, or at best de-paid them. Nothing has changed, just the zeroes. The acts we moved off of the hit parade made it by living off the road. The same is true today. Everybody from Crosby, Still, Nash and Anybody makes their living on the road while Ed Sheeran and Drake are building castles from streams. That is not a moan, just an actuality. The Rolling Stones are the Rat Pack with guitars and Paul McCartney is Morcombe and Wise. That said I did see a miracle in the offering in Montreal in the spring. A young British act called Tom Misch. Technically he couldn't sing, but it didn't matter. It worked. His song lyrics were just this side of borderline naff, but they worked. Some of his lyrical moves were as brilliantly naff as Hal David. But he has a revererence and downright respect for the game. I stayed the whole show, encores and all. Normally you know what's up after 5 songs. I was glued. I think he was weaned on Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder. Don't know, you'd have to ask his mum. And he only needed one guitar! I came out of that club in Montreal and smiled. The British...when we do it well we do it better than anybody. Tom Misch had that thrill.

Lastly, when is the first show going out, and where will we be able to find it?

Craig: The first episode will be released on September 5th and will feature Rob Schwartz from TBWA/Chiat/Day. You’ll be able to subscribe to Sounds and Vision on all major podcast platforms: iTunes, Google, Stitcher, Overcast, TuneIn, and Spotify. You can head there now to hear a trailer episode. You can also hear episodes at soundsandvision.net



click below for all of Andrew Oldham's book releases - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stoned-Andrew-Loog-Oldham/dp/0099284677

follow Andrew Oldham on Twitter  - https://twitter.com/loogoldham

and on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/andrewloogoldham/

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Andrew Loog Oldham Introducing SOUND & VISIONS

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